Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Paris O La La

My wife and I are hoping to go to Paris first week of May. Is this a good time? Also how long should we need on a see Paris type of trip? We also plan to go to Spain and have about 16 days total. I figure a few days for the city and then a day to Versailles what else can/should we do?




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Anytime is a good time to see Paris. If you are a first time visitor 4 days is a bare minimum as you will only see have time to see some of the most famous touristy sights and will miss some of the out of the way %26quot;true Paris%26quot; places. Whatever you do don%26#39;t plan to cram too many sights each day. Better to really enjoys a few places well than go around like the Road runner. By the way it is %26quot;OH LA LA!%26quot; in French and is used to express dismay and shock for example when hearing unpleasant news.




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in that case shame on me for the title :( but I do appreciate the advise and the title correction :)




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%26quot;By the way it is %26quot;OH LA LA!%26quot; in French and is used to express dismay and shock for example when hearing unpleasant news.%26quot;



Not necessarily, it%26#39;s frequently used to express surprise and can often be translated as %26quot;wow%26quot;.



First week of May is a very good time, shouldn%26#39;t be too cold or hot and flowers will be in bloom.



A few days? I%26#39;d also say four days at least and would spend them in the city, there is so much to see.




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I am taking a friend, her first time, for a long weekend at the end of this month. She happens to like writers so Les Duex Magots in on the list.





As most TA members will say, decide what you and your wife like to do. Art, museums, shopping, night life? So many people have written and asked what to do for a couple of days. Look at the various options and see what fits your style.





Enjoy your trip!




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should probably clarify few days as at least 3 nights. I%26#39;ve been to Paris once before so its new to my wife. Also thinking of taking a day trip with maybe an over night to Amsterdam but not sure if its worth it?




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If you%26#39;ve visited Paris before than you know that PARIS has a LOTTA%26#39; STUFF. And, even though it may not be your first vist; it will be your wife%26#39;s, so don%26#39;t short-change her. At a guess, I%26#39;d say devote an entire week (or perhaps more) of your proposed sixreen(16) day itinerary to PARIS. This should give you sufficient time to spend a day out at Versailles or perhaps another day-trip out to the Loire chateaux; Giverny; Chartres. If you%26#39;re still on for a day out to Amsterdam...then take that time away from Paris out of the other nine(9) days of your itinerary. Don%26#39;t %26#39;slight%26#39; Paris.





In trying to decide or determine what to see and do in Paris during a week, though there are more than enough museums, sights and attractions, one of the best ways to occupy %26#39;time%26#39; in Paris is just doing %26#39;..nothing special..%26#39; lingering over a leisurely lunch at a likely-looking café; strolling along the Left Bank quais beside the Seine in the evening (holding hands %26amp; kissing under each bridge mandatory--singing %26amp; dancing optional); strolling through Parisian parcs and gardens for picnics; meandering about the streets of interesting neighborhoods; linger at likely-looking neighborhood cafés over coffee %26amp; dessert or a nite-cap. Take some time to kick back, relax and watch Paris pass by, watching you, watching Paris watching you. watching Paris....well...ya%26#39; get the idea.




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I am not trying to start a war of words with Montreal Fancophones but in my part of France Oh la la has ALWAYS a negative meaning. French in Canada and French in various areas of France are as different from one another as English spoken in Canada and English spoken in various areas of the USA or in the UK. A given word or expression has different meanings depending on the location. For example malle is mail in Quebec but trunk in France. Depanneur is a corner store in PQ but a car repair shop in France. Un bleuet for me is a flower and I translate blueberry by myrtille.




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The train to Amsterdam is 4+ hours. Then there is all the extra time to pack, check out and get to the train station. In effect, a one-day tour of Amsterdam in costing you 2 vacation days. Amsterdam just isn%26#39;t worth it.





If you are really keen on seeing %26quot;another country,%26quot; better to go to Brugges, which can be done as a day trip.





You don%26#39;t say where you are going in Spain so it is hard to comment, but I%26#39;d say a week in Paris is a minimum, if you can.




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thanks as always guys. to answer the question of where in Spain we are leaving Madrid, and using Barcelona as the mid point from Paris and appropriately so. Thinking a day trip to Amsterdam is out of the question but might do a day or so not sure yet.




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3CONILS, I spoke French before moving to Montreal, before that I lived in Europe.



Péjoratif %26quot;Oh la la comme il est laid!%26quot; (oh la la he is so ugly)



Admiratif %26quot;Oh la la qu%26#39;est ce qu%26#39;il est beau!%26quot; (oh la la he is so beautiful)



Depending on situation it can be translated into several dif. English words.

RER tickets



We are going to be in Paris for 4 days , one of the days we intend to go to Disney for a day and on another day we want to go to the outlet mall near disney.This effectively means we need to get up to zone 6 tickets, however we can also use the RER ticket from CDG on the day we arrive. What is the best ticket to buy taking into consideration these facts.





Thanks again for the help.




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CDG airport, Disneyland Paris and La Vallée Village are all in public transport zone 5. Note that some time ago, the zones have changed - a few years ago, it might have been in zone 6, but now all these destinations are in 5 (and there are less zones).



I%26#39;m not sure what you mean by %26quot;we can also use the RER ticket from CDG on the day we arrive%26quot; - A single ticket is only valid for one trip.



The Paris Visite (available for 1, 2, 3 or 5 consecutive days, and for 1-3 or 1-6 zones) is one option. There are also %26quot;Mobilis%26quot; day tickets, for travel in zones 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-5 and 1-6 zones. If you plan to visit Disneyland and La Vallée Village on two consecutive days, you could buy 2-day Paris Visite passes, and for the remaining 2 days either Mobilis day passes or 2-day Paris Visite passes.





On the RATP website ( www.ratp.fr ), only the Paris Visite pass is mentioned. But the STIF website ( www.transport-idf.fr ) has info in English and French about most available tickets. Both sites are official public transport sites.




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The RER ticket from CDG is specific to %26quot;CDG-Paris%26quot;. So it won%26#39;t allow you to pass through and out of Paris to exit at another destination. You%26#39;d be traveling without a valid ticket, which would land you a nice fine from a controller if they checked you.




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Yours may be one of the few exceptions for the PARIS VISITE Zone 1-5 transportation pass





**IF** you plan to use the RER %26#39;B%26#39; ligne train as your mode of airport transfer both from and back to CDG (8,40€ one way--16,80€ r.t)) AND you plan to travel out to DisneyLand Paris (MARNE LA VALLÉE-CHESSY RER--Zone 5--12,90 r.t) and La Vallée Village (VAL d%26#39;EUROPE RER--Zone 5--11,50€)...then the price of a five(5) consecutive-calendar-day PARIS VISITE Zone 1-6 trnsportation pass (48,40€) makes sense....since it will also cover ALL other RER/METRO/BUS/TRAM/FUNICULAR fares within and around Paris for the remainder of your stay. Do the math.




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Hi All





Thanks for the responses, firstly we wont be going back to CDG so we may take the Roissy Bus instead. The RER ticket we only need for 2 trips so maybe the suggestion that we purchase the 2 day Paris Visite and then the other two days use the Metro carnet will work out better. We are a group of 5 ppl so we can buy 2 books and share them amongst us for any local trips.





Thank a million everyone, much appreciated.




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Hi All





Thanks for the responses, firstly we wont be going back to CDG so we may take the Roissy Bus instead. The RER ticket we only need for 2 trips so maybe the suggestion that we purchase the 2 day Paris Visite and then the other two days use the Metro carnet will work out better. We are a group of 5 ppl so we can buy 2 books and share them amongst us for any local trips.





Thanks a million everyone, much appreciated.




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lourdes as a day trip from paris?

hey





i%26#39;ll be going to paris for 5 days in july, and i%26#39;d like to spend one of those days in lourdes. can i go to lourdes as a day trip from paris? perhaps taking an overnight train to lourdes to arrive in the morning and then leaving lourdes in the evening back to paris?





which train should i take and how much does it cost, roughly?





thanks!




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It is just about possible. There is an overnight service between Paris and Lourdes, although you may find that you would have to spend two successive nights on a train. For times and prices have a look at www.voyages-sncf.com




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Yes you would almost certainly have to spend each night on a train. It%26#39;s around a 6 hour journey even on the very fastest trains.





If I remember correctly, one-way fares on the overnight train start at around 70 Euros, but the pricing policy on French long-distance trains means that the earlier you make a reservation the cheaper it usually is. Fares are also determined by day of the week, train time, whether there is an %26#39;r%26#39; in the month and a host of other factors, so it is important to check the available fares for the exact dates you intend to travel and make reservations early.




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i tried checking the rates on the website provided but it seems that the rates for july aren%26#39;t up yet! do you know how far in advance i can book my train tickets?




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Tickets become available between 60 and 90 days in advance. Start looking next month. The night trains sometimes don%26#39;t appear until later. I still can%26#39;t book one for 13th June.




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If money is no object, you can fly from Paris Orly to Lourdes leaving at 0910 arriving 1030 returning at 1815. Air France runs the service.





You would get maybe 5 hours in Lourdes!




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woooosh by name %26amp; nature!!



GOOD LUCK in your endeavours!!




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hey





does anybody know if the overnight trains from paris to lourdes have couchettes? the wikitravel article on lourdes says they don%26#39;t but raileurope said that i can book couchettes!




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hey





does anybody know if the overnight trains from paris to lourdes have couchettes? the wikitravel article on lourdes says they don%26#39;t but raileurope said that i can book couchettes!




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These trains have both couchettes and reclining seats.





Source: www.voyages-sncf.com




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thanks for the link! i found train rides that cost as low as 32euros wow! however, i%26#39;m not sure if they include couchettes.. also, if i get a eurail pass, i%26#39;ll need to make a reservation for the couchettes, right? how do i do this?





thanks!

Residence Henri IV vs. Hotel du Pantheon?

We have reasonable rates for a family of four at both, and are trying to decide. Has anyone compared these two hotels in person?





Thank you!




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/www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d233747-Reviews-Hotel_du_Pantheon-Paris_Ile_de_France.html





tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d230491…




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oops,





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I am only familiar with the Henri IV because I stay in an apt directly next to it when in Paris. The location absolutely cannot be beat for a visitor to the city. You can be at Notre Dame in under two minutes from the hotel. Load of cafes and restaurants in the area. It gets consistently good reviews here on TA. Unless there is a compelling reason to stay at the Pantheon, I%26#39;d go with the Henri IV.




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I%26#39;ve actually stayed at both of these hotels. For a family, I think you will probably be better off at the Residence Henri IV. The rooms are larger and all have kitchenettes in them, which may come in handy with a family. We%26#39;ve stayed there seven or eight times and will stay there again when we visit in a few weeks.





The Hotel Pantheon is also nice, but the rooms seemed much smaller to me. They are very nicely decorated and air conditioned, which might be the only advantages.





As far as location, the hotels are pretty close together, but I think the Henri IV is slightly more convenient.




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My apologies. I was mistaking the Residence Henri IV for the Henri IV Rive Gauche. Sorry for the confusion.




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Thank you for all the replies!




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HappyGoin - it%26#39;s easy to get confused! I know of at least one other Hotel Henri IV in Place Dauphine and maybe there are more. Your advice was still good!




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Red, it makes you wonder how many tourists make reservations at one and show up at the other :)




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marais

can anyone reccomend a reasonably priced hotel in the marais for this weekend help!




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Inexpensive Paris Hotels in the Marais





Hotel Jeanne d ‘Arc TA reviews 4 circles average



3 Rue de Jarente 62 to 79€ sgl 90€ dbl 146€ triple 160€ quad



http://www.hoteljeannedarc.com/





Hotel Sevigne TA reviews 4 circles average



2 Rue Mahler 68€ sgl 82 to 93€ dbl 111€ triple



http://www.le-sevigne.com/ang_accueil.htm





Hotel de la Herse d’Or TA reviews 3.5 circles average



20 Rue saint Antoine 94€ sgl 49 to 85€ for a dbl 99 to 110€ triple (5€ discount for booking on the internet)



parishotelherseor.com/english/the-hotel-01.h…





Hospital Hotel Dieu Paris (on the island near Notre Dame) TA reviews 4.5 circles



1 Place du Parvis 115€ sgl 126€ double 11€ extra bed



http://www.hotel-hospitel.com/ang/accueil.htm





Hotel Andrea Rivoli TA reviews 3.5 circles



13 Rue Saint Bon approx. 108€



leshoteliersdeparis.com/Hotel-Andrea-Rivoli.…





Hotel Flor Rivoli TA review 3.5 circles



13 Rue des Deaux Broules 75€ sgl 90€ dbl



hotel-paris-florrivoli.com/English/Main.htm





Hotel de Nice



42 bis rue de Rivoli 80€ sgl 110€ dbl 135€ triple



www.hoteldenice.com





Do a TA review if you see something that appeals to you. It will also map out the hotel for you.




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New to internet cafe usage - advice please!

I%26#39;ve searched the forum for some info on internet cafe usage, but can%26#39;t seem to find what I am looking for, so I%26#39;d appreciate any advice or information anyone may have regarding internet cafes for the beginner.





We%26#39;ll be in France for two weeks, and are debating whether or not to bring our laptop. It%26#39;s a bit unreliable, and very heavy. We%26#39;d use it for email, downloading our photos, for charging our MP3 players, and possibly watching DVD%26#39;s. We have small portable DVD player, so we could bring that instead, and use internet cafes for email usage.





Here are my questions:



Do these cafes typically have stations you can use to log on to your home email? Or is it becoming a place where one brings their laptop to access the internet?





What are the typical usage fees?





Can I charge my MP3 player while using the internet? This is probably the biggest thing, since I could live without the email for two weeks, but the batteries on our MP3 players won%26#39;t last that long! Is there another small, portable device that we could use in our aparment for this instead?





We%26#39;re considering purchasing a new, lighter and updated laptop, but it might not be in the budget before the trip - unless anyone has advice on that too?!





Any info would be appreciated! Thank you!




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There are 2 schools of thought... those who would never take along a laptop and those who wouldn%26#39;t think of NOT having a laptop! I%26#39;m one of the latter.





Internet cafes do still have computers there for you to use. Several hotels we staying at in France last summer had a computer or 2 in the lobby for guests. But you wouldn%26#39;t have time to charge an MP3 player at either. That can sometimes take quite a while.





There are other solutions for charging MP3 players... my daughter has an adapter that plus into a wall outlet to charge her iPod. It works in Europe as well.





Personally, I wouldn%26#39;t spend any time sitting on an internet cafe. If your current laptop is big and unreliable just stop by your nearest Staples... I just got home from our local outlet and they had several %26quot;Netbooks%26quot; on display. These are very small laptops with screens from 8 to 10 inches, hardrives ranging from 8 gigs to 160+ gigs and prices starting around $250 ish... I%26#39;d grab one that suits your budget.





I have an older Dell 12 inch that I travel with. I also have one of the first generation netbooks, an Asus EEE with a 7.9 inch screen. My daughter had it on our trip to France last summer and it worked perfectly. It could pick up WiFi signals where my Dell couldn%26#39;t...





Brands of netbooks include Dell, Asus, MSI, HP, Acer and others. Check them out and see what works for you.





Rob





BTW... you can leave the DVD player at home... none of the netbooks have built in DVD drives but if you save movies to the harddrive or a USB stick you can vastly extend battery life.




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I would advise you against bringing an unreliable heavy laptop on a trip. You will get tired of lugging it around, especially when it doesn%26#39;t always work. Whether you elect to buy a netbook or a new laptop (but the very light ones don%26#39;t have a DVD player) is a personal choice.





In Europe, there are many internet cafes and the prices are very cheap. If you elect to bring your own computer, many hotels now offer WiFi connection at a charge via a service provider such as Orange. The price is generally not any cheaper than internet cafes though.





For MP3 charging, I am assuming it came with a portable charger? That charger is most likely compatible with European voltages too except for the plug so you%26#39;d just need an adapter, not a voltage converter. If you look on your charger and see 100V to 240V, then it can be used just about anywhere in the world with the plug adapter.




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Sammyfloyd - unfortunately the MP3 players do not come with an adapter for the wall, only cords to connect to a computer to charge. That is my dilemma.





I have seen those small netbooks, but like I said, not sure if will fit into the budget before the trip. I will check into them though, just as a comparison.





Does anyone know of reliable chargers for MP3 players that we could bring with us? Am I crazy, or have I seen ones that are also solar, that could maybe be used later during camping trips?




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Google is your friend ;^)





%26quot;mp3 chargers%26quot;... here%26#39;s 1 result:





astore.amazon.ca/buy.mp3.accessories-20…





Here%26#39;s a solar one... might be rather slow though...





store.solio.com/Solio-Magnesium-Edition




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paris airports help?

we are flying from glasgow in july to paris for a week and will be staying in the montmartre area the accomodation website states that the charles de gaul airport is the closest, i am finding the flights to be about £150 per person BUT if we fly in to beauvais airport i can get the flights for about £50 per person from ryanair.



my question is = is it worth the saving to go to beauvais airport and do taxi or even metro transfers? or is beauvais to far away? from where we will be staying. the beauvais flights are at better times also.



thanks for any advice you can give




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I%26#39;ve never flown in to the Beauvais airport, so I can%26#39;t comment in the strictest sense. But I do know that you can get a transfer in to the city from Beavais, which is much farther out than CDG, for less than the difference in the airfares you%26#39;re seeing. See this website:http://www.aeroportbeauvais.com/bus.php?lang=eng





There are other alternatives for getting into the city too.




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Thre cost of the transfer, via public transportation between CDG and Paris vs. BVA and Paris are not significant. In practical terms, the time it would take for the transfer would be approx. 45-60 mins from CDG to central Paris vs. 70-80 minutes from BVA to central Paris. Another minor disadvantage to BVA is that there is only one regular public transportation transfer available--the BVA SHUTTLE, with only one drop-off location in Paris vs. several public transportation alternatives from CDG (RER %26#39;B%26#39; train, ROISSYBUS, two(2) Les CARS AIR FRANCE Coach Routes with several different drop-off locations within Paris.





The BVA Shuttle (large motorcoach) departs from a pick-up point just outside of the BVA terminal building (fare: 13€--travel time approx 70 mins) and drops-off near PORTE MAILLOT, at the western edge of Paris. From the BVA Shuttle drop-off point you must make your own way across Paris, via taxi, Metro or bus to your final destination within Paris. As noted, this transfer takes a bit more time than transfers from CDG...but not excessively so.





So for a saving of £200...the Ryan Air route to BVA seems a substantive saving for two passengers...with SOME additional inconvenience.




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There is a 13€ shuttle from Beauvais to Porte Maillot and from there you can take either the Métro or taxi to your hotel. The bus ride is approximately 1+15 to 1+45 depending upon traffic. I estimate a taxi from Beauvais to central Paris would be about 150€+ (it is a good distance from Paris).





I personally would fly into CDG and take the RER into Paris - 8.45€ and about 30 minutes. The important consideration: is the cost and time of using an airport so far away from Paris worth the money you save on the tickets?




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