Wednesday, April 25, 2012

how safe around train stations?

just read about a stabbing near eurostar station in paris, apparently a migrant.



are there not enough police in these areas?



how safe for tourists?



regards




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I think you%26#39;re referring to a stabbing between Afghan refugees at the square Villemin (about half a kilometer from Gare du Nord), sunday morning. This small park has become a %26quot;refugee camp%26quot; of sorts, where sometimes hundreds of refugees wait for an opportunity to get to the UK. They get help from Médécins sans frontières and other organisations.





No matter how much police there is, this sort of thing can happen anywhere, anytime. Don%26#39;t worry too much. For tourists, pickpockets are more of a threat!




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I just did a Google for %26quot;stabbing,Adelaide%26quot; and found stories on a 24 year old a 2 year old and a 14 year old dying in stabbing incidents.





Do they not have enough police there?




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Around Gare du Nord is not the nicest area. However, if you use your common sense, you should be fine. I stayed at the Mercure Hotel across the street for a couple of nights and even walked around at 11:00pm. It was more deserted than dangerous.




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The fact that a stabbing in Paris makes Int%26#39;l news should tell you something. It was a fight between friends. Not a random act of violence.




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I%26#39;m not sure how relevant this is, but here goes... I used to live near a major railway station in London (Kings Cross) and there used to be a lot of prostitution and drug dealing in the area. This brought in the %26#39;wrong sort%26#39; and, on paper, it was a very high crime area - beatings, turf wars and the like. But it didn%26#39;t affect us locals at all really - the %26#39;bad%26#39; people attacked other %26#39;bad%26#39; people and residents actually felt safer because of the enhanced police presence.





So, I would venture that it%26#39;s perfectly safe for tourists.





I was at Gare du Nord a couple of weeks ago and the area didn%26#39;t seem %26#39;seedy%26#39; or %26#39;dangerous%26#39; to me.




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re adelaide



i think we would all like to see more police in particular on the streets where they maybe needed and not away in admin/paperwork.



a visual police presence on the street is reassuring and probably a deterent.



yes we would like to have more in adelaide and yes we do not seem to have enough.



i think they were even recruiting from the uk.





from my travels i know some areas are safer than others anywhere.



i can remember being told in KL at one time by a local that certain areas were not safe for tourists but if they were robbed then the robbers could not be blamed because some of the people had so little, so tourists were considered fair game?



an interesting perception.



it is certainly an education to travel and good to do some research and this forum is a good source of info i find.





would anyone like to comment as to why the pick pocketing and related crime is so rife? is it tolerated by the locals? if so i guess the best thing would be to blend in and be careful.



sometimes it seems we have not moved very fair from the days of Dickens.



regards






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Pickpockets are everywhere, and they are particularly good at their trade in Paris and in Rome. Unless you happen to reach into the pocket in question at exactly the time that there is another hand in there, you%26#39;ll never know exactly when the deed occurred.





It is a simple pocket picking. There is no threat, no attack, a simple reach into a pocket to see if there%26#39;s anything to be had.





Do not give money to anyone on the street - they may well be a shill for a PP, showing him/her where your money is.





All the police in the world won%26#39;t stop a good PP, the challenge will be met - and probably quite successfully. I think it%26#39;s a job done as much for fun as for profit.




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